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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Magorath View Post
    Nice to know they've given you some direction. What about subscription or in app purchase for game time payment as that was the apparent issue?
    We've been told to resubmit using subscriptions. The wrinkle is that we are not permitted to ask you for a user name until after you purchase a subscription. Also, if you only want to play on one device, we aren't permitted to ask you for a user name at all. It's complicated.

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsagoth View Post
    The wrinkle is that we are not permitted to ask you for a user name until after you purchase a subscription.
    To be exact... We can have the option available to you, but we can't force you to sign up on a single device, but we can tell you that you are required to signup if you would like to access the game from multiple devices. Although in either case we highly suggest people sign up. If you ever lose your auto log in anytime in the future we will not be able to recover it, since we won't know the real owner of the account. Since technically you could have given your device away, lost it, or had it stolen. Without the linked e-mail account to the registration we have no way of e-mailing the original owner of the account.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apple
    11.6 Content subscriptions using IAP must last a minimum of 7 days and be available to the user from all of their iOS devices

    If you choose to use user registration to meet this requirement, please keep in mind that it is not appropriate to require user registration. Such user registration must be made optional. It would be appropriate to make it clear to the user that only by registering will they be able to access the content from all of their iOS devices; and to provide them a way to register later, if they wish to access the content on their other iOS devices at a future time.
    I had a long chat with the guy on the phone explaining our problem with said functionality, but I was told it is a matter of Apple policy, and it was not open for discussion. He said we will need to figure out how to work within those bounds, and if we could not find a way to do that our app would not be approved.

    At any rate the issue is moot.. We have devised a work around to the problem and will be working on it over the next couple of days. Hopefully we'll be back in the submit queue in the very near future, since it's not a massive problem.
    Last edited by zarkwizard; 05-01-2012 at 01:09 PM.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by zarkwizard View Post
    To be exact... We can have the option available to you, but we can't force you to sign up on a single device, but we can tell you that you are required to signup if you would like to access the game from multiple devices. Although in either case we highly suggest people sign up. If you ever lose your auto log in anytime in the future we will not be able to recover it, since we won't know the real owner of the account. Since technically you could have given your device away, lost it, or had it stolen. Without the linked e-mail account to the registration we have no way of e-mailing the original owner of the account.



    I had a long chat with the guy on the phone explaining our problem with said functionality, but I was told it is a matter of Apple policy, and it was not open for discussion. He said we will need to figure out how to work within those bounds, and if we could not find a way to do that our app would not be approved.

    At any rate the issue is moot.. We have devised a work around to the problem and will be working on it over the next couple of days. Hopefully we'll be back in the submit queue in the very near future, since it's not a massive problem.
    Kudos to whoever said "Third time is a charm." LOL

    I am glad it seems to be fully worked out, too bad you couldn't get this Apple guy on the phone earlier. =-)

    Eagerly waiting approval so I can review/enjoy it. =)

  4. #54
    It sounds like you guys have already figured out a way to set it up with an autogenerated username/password etc, but could it be set up to just use a Game Center ID for people that didn't want to register separate? Thinking just using the GC ID, not the rest of the game center functionality, but then it might be possible to set it up so it can potentially be recovered.

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by VanderLegion View Post
    It sounds like you guys have already figured out a way to set it up with an autogenerated username/password etc, but could it be set up to just use a Game Center ID for people that didn't want to register separate? Thinking just using the GC ID, not the rest of the game center functionality, but then it might be possible to set it up so it can potentially be recovered.
    Sadly they are separate processes. There is no way for our servers to talk with the GC servers. It would be nice if there was some kind of a centralized Apple log in process that we could use. It would have certainly made our lives easier.

  6. #56
    I was just thinking of using the GC ID for the username essentially, since you can access that if the user is signed in without using the rest of the game center multiplayer stuff, then having it autogenerate a password for your servers. That way it could be possible to set up a way to retrieve the password if you're logged into your game center account after having wiped and restored your phone, or bought a new one, etc. Though I suppose there could be people out there who don't want to create an account for your guys' server that also don't use game center...

  7. #57
    Regardless of if we could have used the GC log in or not, the bigger issue is still at hand of not requiring a signup or log in to play. That's the main issue at hand. I suppose if someone is overly paranoid they don't have to sign up, with us since we will just auto-generate something for them.. It's their choice, and something we will provide for privacy to meet the Apple requirements.

    We can't twist someones arm to sign up, but we certainly suggest it. We would hate to see someone lose their phone and get screwed out of something like a lifetime account because they didn't want to register. There is nothing we can do if something like that happens. We have no way to link the information for anything other than the device you use for the auto-gen process. Unless of course you sign up. Then we at least have a mechanism to be able to recover your information and send the account holder an e-mail.

    You can auto-gen an account, and later on signup, and your account information will then be linked to the user you created, and you will also gain the ability to log in from any device, not just the one you signed up on.

  8. #58
    You could be transparent with apple's login policy to trigger people's intuition. If not at the first boot, then certainly at a purchase pos with an unregistered device.

    It's unfortunate that they are being so hamfisted, despite their own emarrasing direct contradiction screw-up.

  9. #59
    Will the auto-generated username and password be available to the player when they get created? or accessible on a separate setting screen?

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by catswift View Post
    Will the auto-generated username and password be available to the player when they get created? or accessible on a separate setting screen?
    It will not be accessible. It is a device generated algorithm to uniquely identify the device, as it is outlined and expected by Apple. You can choose to just use that, or you can go through the registration process to configure a username, and password. You can register at anytime, and if you choose not to you will have the auto-login process available to you.

    Keep in mind the auto-generated identifier is unique to the device, and you will not be able to access your account from any other device, except the one you log in with. You will only be able to access you account from multiple devices if you choose to register.

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